## to the poker players out there (pot odds)?

hey there, i love poker a lot and have been playing for some time now just as a hobby.

i play online and i play tight standerd poker which obviously at an ameture level of low stakes has allowed me to earn quite abit more than iv lost.

but im not a great player by any means and there’s alot about the game i don’t understand. One of these things i don’t understand fully is pot odds so whoever gives the best explaination (with examples) will earn my 10 points.

cheers

Basically, it’s the money odds vs the chance of winning the hand.

If the money odds are lower than your odds of winning, you should stay in the hand.

If the money odds are higher than your odds of winning, you should fold.

Examples:
Money odds are low, chance to win is higher:
You are holding a flush draw with the river to come. You have 8 chances out of 40 cards (1 to 5) odds to make the winning hand. If it costs you less than 1/5th the pot, you should call.

Money odds are higher than the chance to win:
Same as above, but now it costs you 1/2 the pot. You should fold.

There are a lot of other factors involved (pre-flop, post flop, turn, river, showdown, number of players, position, etc.) but this is the basics.

## Poker – hold’em, odds and probability?

Okay, here’s another one.
You are dealt two connected pocket cards, say TJ. What are your odds of flopping a straight? How do you work it out?

Well how many other people are playing the game. Usually 10, including yourself. So there are 20 cards in play leaving 32 left in the deck. We burn 1 and flop 3 so 28 are left after that .

Out of the 32 you need 3 cards for a straight, and to parley 2 of them. So either 7+8+9n 8+9+q or 9+q+k or q+k+a

so in the complete deck there are apx 24 cards that can build those possibilities and then you figure that 20/52nd of the deck is out there.

So your odds of flopping a straight any way are 9 out of 100 apx..

Its just math. And statistics.

## How do you calculate your pot odds in texas holdem poker?

According to this site http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=h&b=Ks+7s+2s&d=&h=Kd+Kh%0D%0AAs+Qs there is a 34.4% that the Kh Kd will beat the As Qs with a board of Ks 7s 2s. However, when I do it in my head, I multiply the number of outs for the KK (7 outs) by 4, which gives me a 28% chance to make the best hand by the river. Why is there a difference in between the two numbers?
Well I am trying to calculate my odds after this specific flop comes out, assuming my opponent has any flush. If he has any flush, I am behind at this moment, and would need a K, any 7 or 2 (or runner runner, which I do not know how to calculate outs for) to come up to win the hand.
In this situation with an all spade flop where I want to put the other person on a flush, then I would be the person with outs

This is not a question of pot odds, but I’ll get to that later.

I’m not sure why you’re multiplying your number of outs by 4. Maybe this is a shortcut you’ve learned somewhere? I found that it’s actually pretty close, so maybe you’re onto something. However, I looked at the situation and found that you overlooked the possibility of a running pair on the turn and river, which gives you slightly better than 7 outs. Anway, you can think about it this way:

-What are your chances of NOT catching one of your outs on the turn? We know 7 of the cards, there are 45 unknown, we’ve got 7 outs. So the odds are 38/45 that we’ll miss the turn.

-If you miss the turn, what are the chances that you’ll also miss the river? *Important NOTE*: You’ve got more outs on the river because you can now win by pairing the turn too (running pair is good). Now there are 44 unknown cards, 10 outs, chances to miss are 34/44.

-Multiply these to find the chances you’ll miss both: 38/45 * 34/44 = approx. 65.3%

-Subtract from 1, and you get the odds that you will catch on one of the two streets. That’s 34.7%, which is quite close to to the odds calculated by the site above.

Note ALSO, that their calculation is more correct than mine, because I simplified slightly. If the turn was an Ace or a Queen, you’d have 9 outs on the river instead of 10.

Now, if we had done the same calculation assuming exactly 7 outs on both streets, we’d come up with 29% which is quite close to the estimate you made… So I guess your shortcut is a very practical way to get a close estimate, and you just need to consider any extra/hidden outs which might exist.

Now, as for „pot odds,“ our calculations suggest you would want close to two to one on your money to consider calling an all-in *if you knew your opponents exact cards before getting the money in*. But, practically speaking, I think it’s virtually impossible to fold this hand to almost any bet. No matter what, you’re going to be getting something better than even money, and rarely know someone well enough to tell a shove with a flush from a shove with a draw/semi-bluff. Maybe only in the case where you bet out, and then the opponent shoves in a *huge* all-in overbet to take a tiny pot, and you know he’s a craven coward, would you maybe consider getting away from your hand. Let’s say the pot’s 400 preflop, you bet out 300, and he shoves all-in for 15,000… Then you’ve got something to think about.

## Poker: how do you „work out the odds in your head“?

This is how I work out pot odds in my head.
I take the number of outs that I have and divide that by 45. I do that so much, that I know every number my heart. At first i was slow, so it does take practice. Whatever number I come up with, I subtract by 1.

For example
Lets say I have a flush draw and I know I would win with a flush, I have 9 outs (9 of that suit possibly left in the deck) 9/45 = 5. Subtract 1, my odds are 4-1.

So what ever the bet is, I multiply that by 4 and if the pot holds more than that, I have the odds to call.

That is the simple part of calculating odds. There are more complex versions for calculating implied odds, which I even have trouble doing at times. I never heard a pro that doesn’t use math in poker, so I would think that odds are a very big part of the game.
Good luck

## How important is math in poker?

So i use some math in poker when it comes to pot odds and converting my outs into percentages of hitting and i can somewhat manage that but i was wondering at what times does math come into play and when can it be helpful? and how big of a factor is this in poker because i feel its holding me back somewhat since math was never my strong suite.
Any good pokertrainer websites for these for these? like pokertrainer.se